A so-called friend of mine said that if you are a "true fan of MCR, then you would ignore the fan fictions." Let's have you say so in the matter. For ALL fanfic writers, not just those those of MCR.
(#) jajajajaime16 2009-05-22 04:04:26 PMbegins a slow clap thank you! and damn, your 'friend' sounds like one of the biggest posers out there...and I agree about the celebrity lives thing-we love those guys because they're NORMAL people. normal people don't want to have people studying thier lives and analyzing it over and over again.
anyway-really good points you've made, and you're an amazing writer, so screw the haters....xD
Author's responsethanks so much for understanding. you're one of my readers i was waiting to hear a response from. i love you reviews. the thing about this person, though, is that this person grew up next to the way brothers, love MCR, and are still extremely good friends with gerard and mikey today! that's why none of this makes any sense to me. how can you be an MCR fan and know the brothers personally, then say MCR fanfic needs to be ignored? see! that's sound completely ridiculous! and thanks for agreeing!
(#) warwornlipstick 2009-05-22 04:30:07 PMWhoa. First off, you're 'friend' needs to be punched in the fucking face. Second, I agree with you.
I've never had someone say that to me, mostly because only one person that I know knows I write, and she writes fanfiction as well. But reading this made me wonder if I have been wasting my time writing.
But then, I got to thinking, and I really don't give a fuck what people say about people who write fanfiction.
I'm just shdhdeud right now, so I don't think I can say anything else without making no sense at all, but I totally understand why you're so upset.
And go you for posting this :)
Author's responseaw, thanks honeybun!!! yes, i'm terribly upset. and i'm glad people like you are taking astand for yourself. no one's better than anyone. EVER. and my feelings are totally hurt by this. i really thought this person was my friend. may they didn't realize what they said, but that's no excuse. it's like talking with your mouth full.
thanks for being one of my true friends. ^_
- The problem with people who think people who write fanfiction are stupid is that they obviously miss the point of fanfiction in the first place. I know for me I never intended to write about MCR, even though they are my favorite band. I simply had a ton of stories that no one was ever going to read and I needed an outlet so people would read them.
We're NOT writing about MCR. We're writing about characters we have created and borrowed the physical likeness of certain real people. I in no way think that any members of MCR were ever vampires or psycho killers so obviously I am not writing about them.
This is an outlet pure and simple. My writing fanfiction has absolutely nothing to do with my love for the music MCR creates. I don't care about their personal lives or anything that isn't my business to know. I've met them all and they are really stand up guys and their music and message mean something to me. It doesn't translate to my writing at all.
Tell people who bash people for expressing themselves that THEY are the stupid ones for honestly thinking that fanFICTION is detremental to the real life people these characters are sometimes based off of. It's called fiction for a reason. It's not hurting anyone and its giving really talented people a chance to get their work read. If I had posted one of my stories on some random board a lot of people would have never taken the time to read them. Not only do people read my stuff but they have given me the self confidence to take writing a step further and make it my career. So tell those haters to fuck off.
Jesus, that was a rant wasn't it? Well I feel better about it anyway.
Author's responseAMEN, SISTER!!! ~mr gayestgoth.
(#) figilio_vampiri 2009-05-22 05:35:16 PMI only started writing fan fiction recently after a really long break. That was because of some personal issues and feeling as if my writing simply wasn't good enough. I'm happy to write it again. I know I get looked down on for writing about one of my favourite bands. But I've almost stopped caring. Because what we write is our personal choice. We don't claim our stories to be fact, they are an outlet for a lot of people. I know I would suffer a lot more without my writing. I'm proud to have found a way to help myself - through words.
I write about My Chemical Romance because they have had such a big effect on me. It might seem strange to "thank" the members of the band by making them characters in my stories, but that's not what it's about. I find it interesting, I find them worthy of my time and by no means do I consider myself stupid.
You are not stupid for writing this, I'm glad you have. Thank you for saying what a lot of fan fiction authors feel. Thank you for encouraging me still more with my own work and life.
Author's responsehell yes, buddy! i agree with everthing you said!!! by no means do i consider MYSELF stupid. i love MCR, and i love how the boys are changing some of the world. i hold them in the highest respect. you hold them in the highest respect. that's it, plain and simple. gerard, mikey, bob, ray, and frank are held in the highest honor. we love them. always will. since they don't put their personal lives outt here, it makes the boys THAT much more interesting! thank you for saying i'm not stupid for writing this. i know i'm not, but it helps to hear it from someone else. and you're welcome for the encouragement. i want us to ALL keep writing. especially you. ~mr gayestgoth.
- Oh my gosh how ignorant is that >__<
Seriously that just undermines mcr fans in like everyway...mcr fans generally tend to be the most creative so I seriously don’t know where he/she got that from o__O
I’m certainly not stupid and I write frerard fics...and how can we be stupid when we are all excellent writers and are clever enough to come up with inspirational story lines....or lyrics...or poetry or like you said fan art
mcr and their fans saved my life when i was depressed about my dad telling me I was stupid and lazy (that’s in the past though)..I’m not afraid to say that because mcr fans are wonderful and thoughtful and I’m sure you know what it’s like to feel alone!....I don’t need someone who I don’t know trying to put me down too
mcr fans are some of the best people i know they stick up for what they believe in...What is more beautiful than that??
But it doesn’t matter anyway because underestimating and undermining mcr fans is the last thing you should do...I mean we are a gang... we stick up for our heroes as well as each other we are a family I don’t know any other band who have a fan base like us!!....so don’t try to tell us what a real fan is because when we look in the mirror we know for ourselves... especially if you claim to be one of them...I mean jeez whoever said it needs to pull their head out of their ass and take a real hard look at themselves in the mirror
and no fucking way did she/he live next to the guys....and she/he still dictates our love for them....ridiculous completely ridiculous...she obviously doesn’t know them that well...I mean mcr are all about being yourself...and Gerard Way told us to not take any ones shit ...so whoever said it can go and royally fuck themselves because you cannot and will not EVER take us alive....at least not without a fight! And believe me we will be fighting tooth and nail all the way!
And thank you for making that video and this page :]
Glad I could have my little rant ha-ha
xoxo Lottie oxox
(#) nadialexandra 2009-05-22 06:38:23 PMYou know what? I am stupid. I'll admit it. But that's just the way I am. My writing, my thoughts and the music I listen to do not affect that. I've been suspended from my school twice because of what I listen to. They thought my My Chemical Romance hoodies were too 'graphic' for a school environment. You know what I said to the assistant principal when she pulled me into her office? I looked her straight in the eye and said "Fuck. You." She's seen my notebooks, my drawings, some of my earliest fanfictions when she tracked me on MySpace. She called me stupid for it. She said that I, apparently, "wrote that so you could get attention. Those 'My Chemical Romance' people will never read it; they'll never know of your existance. But, please, continue writing. Your plot-lines are rather interesting. But we'll see just how far you get in life." I know what you meant when you said that you died that day when your father ripped up your notebooks. That was a week before my 12th birthday; and that stupid bitch decided she wanted to take my notebooks and throw them out. I hate her for it.
I know for a fact that obsession is bad, like you said. Even as a thirteen year old girl- Gerard Way isn't the only reason I like My Chemical Romance. I can relate to their music; I don't care about their lives. I mean, I care if they're doing okay or not- because I care about everyone, it's just how I am. Still. Yeah, I think Gerard Way is hot. But what's that matter? I'm ruled by my hormones- it means nothing. I write about MCR because their music is what keeps me going through the day. They keep me inspired. Like, right now? The only chance I have left of getting into high school is art school because my grades are shit. So only my writing can get my where I want to go in life. Does that make me stupid? If they give me inspiration, is it bad to write about them as a small thank you for how far they'll get me in the future? No, it's not. Fanfiction isn't stupid. It's art. It's expression. And, for me, it's my last chance. So fuck anyone that says otherwise. Because it's also entertainment. It's sanity in word form. Like Harley. I don't know a thing about her except that she's an excellent writer. But the fact that she's been sober for 5 years because of My Chemical Romance and her writing? That's enough right there. Fanfiction is not wrong. It shouldn't be ignored. If anything, it should be embraced. It's not obsession; it's appreciation. So many people have told me that I'm too young to understand the message behind MCR lyrics. I'd agree. But I'd also argue. I could go on forever, but I'm too exhausted from this goddamn fever I've been staying home with. For now, all I can say is fuck whoever it was that said that. True friends don't do that. True MCR fans don't do that. We're the MCRmy. And an army with holes in it can be easily broken down. And we don't want that, do we? No, we don't.
So yeah. I need to take my medication now, and then have some tea and soup. Hopefully I'll get better soon enough to go spit in my assistant principal's face.
(#) shehadtheworld12 2009-05-22 07:07:20 PMWriting is what we all do. I love all the authors here and I'm truly dissapointed that someone could actually say that about the MCRMY when the front man himself is a writer. I agree, she doesn't sound like a true friend. and true mcr fans sure as hell don't do that. We express ourselves freely because we're inspired by the man himself and the most incredible band behind him. By reading the reviews obviously we all agree. I'm glad to see that no one else really believes that. I write because it's truly helps me break free from the world for just a cool minute. Without writing I would not be the person i am right now. Thank you for doing this. You inspire skittlecake!!! I love ya.
And P.S Moo-Moo says hi. [my new kittnen] yes he is a kitten! my prayers have been answered!!!!
(#) shehadtheworld12 2009-05-22 07:42:05 PMAnd I would just like to add, that yes most amazing authors at one point had troubles in they're lives and writing got them through it.
You and Harley are pretty much my inspiration. I love you to pieces and very happy that you came into my life. I can't tell you how much this means to me. I can't tell you how much I would like to bear hug you SO bad right now :( Once again thank you and writers who have inspired me.
My friends don't like Mcr, but they would never say something like that.
I'm still blown away by that girl....
(#) canustakemyheart 2009-05-23 12:25:26 AMOk, here's my honest thoughts on this.
Obviously you're a really passionate person and it's clear to me now that you're not out to hurt anyone and just want spread the good vibes. After reading this is sounds like you've been through some shit in life and you found a way through it through creativity, music, and your religion. That's cool, more power to you. I personally don't believe that "god" is speaking to us through Gerard Way, but hey, everyone's entitled to believe what they want, right?
And if I'm going to continue to be honest here I have to say that I didn't make it the whole way through one of your videos (it was the one about that one fic by browser18). In a way, I admire that you can put yourself out there like you do and just be yourself without giving a fuck, but to say that I didn't think for a few seconds, whoa, this guy's creeping me out in a way, I'd be lying. I thought, you're one of the "crazy" fans. This was after you left a response to a review I left you on that one baby fic you wrote. Sometimes I don't know why I read certain stuff but in the middle of the night I sometimes do, but that's beside the point. In that response and in the other ones from that story you mentioned you were going to give that fic to Mikey. If I were him, I'd be a little creeped out by some dude I didn't know who wrote up intimate details about his bro and his wife having a baby and then thought it was something I'd want to read. If someone sent me something like that I would feel really weird and uncomfortable about it.
There was a point to saying that and hopefully you didn't take that the wrong way because if you did, then you would be "pot" and I would be "kettle" since obviously I have written fic (and I'll get to discussing that in a moment, but first ...). Anyway, what I'm trying to illustrate here is WHY people like your "friend" say the things they do. It really seems that sometimes fans don't seem to think some of their actions through - and this can be said for all "types" (yes, there's types) of fans. Your friend didn't really think through what she said (btw I've heard G wrote fanfiction at one point. I guess homegirl doesn't know him that well after all.) and claims to be a fan. Then there's that other end of the spectrum like 16 year old girls who've thought it was a-ok to grab a handful of G and totally invade his personal space and still call themselves a fan. I don't want to delve too deep into all that or I'll totally digress, so back to the fan fiction. Fan fiction is for the FANS. I think Frank even said that once. The people being written about are of course aware of it and if they're cool about it, like MCR, they encourage people to be creative. I'm sure there have been some jokes about "Ferard", but for the most part, it's all seen as a way for fans to have a creative outlet. The guys actually reading it though? Beyond the narcissism of that lies the simple question of, "why would you want to read about yourself in bizarre situations, paired up sexually with your friends or underage girls, going through a miserable highschool experience, or worse?" Few people would, I'd think. I mean, for the most part, I think the people writing MCR fanfic are teenage girls.
This brings me to another major point and that is getting more to the core of how I personally feel about fan fiction. The first fan fiction I ever wrote I don't think the term had come about yet either. I was writing stories about my favorite comic book characters, then Star Wars and other science fiction. My motivation was simply because my mind was always "on" and after reading a story or seeing a film or tv show I would start to develop my own story angles. One day I just started writing them down. Fan fiction is just "borrowing" pre-made characters and putting them in new situations and stories. Hell most of writing (or the visual arts for that matter) is borrowing and making something your own. Sometimes you keep the characters in their own "universe" and sometimes you use your own. In the case of real life people, you're borrowing their appearance, personality, character traits, etc. Although I'd never written about real people until last summer.
I don't know what the official catalyst was for me to start writing fanfic and "borrowing" MCR - or more specifically Gerard. One day the idea just popped into my head and in order to make myself feel ok about the whole affair I rationalized that the same way G has been able to help people through his music and lyrics, I could potentially do the same thing with his existing fanbase by telling my stories.
Some people may not know the extent of the definition of "my stories" when it comes to the stuff I've put up here. A few out there, that I've allowed to get to know me slightly better, do. When I started writing stuff last summer it was more of a catharsis for me … therapeutic really. The first thing I wrote popped into my head randomly and it was a kinda funny situation that I was certain would at least spark an interest with this fanbase. So I wrote it, surfed the interwebz until I came up on this site, picked an appropriate screen name and went for it. So I admit I wrote some, what I call, "fluff" stories. I fluffed you guys HA! I got you all set to receive some of the more real stories that I put out there.
I'm actually a really private person in real life and in order for me to even do what I was doing no one could know. There's still only one person in real life that does know I've written this particular stuff. Beyond all the fluff stories (and there really are only a few of those) I was sometimes writing about very personal things the likes of which have not been discussed with anyone, ever - the types of things that were slowly burning a hole in my core. Instead of vainly trying to toss another bucket of water on something that would never burn out, I decided to fan the flames, letting them consume me throughout many, many late nights, culminating really on 4 stories (there were 30 all together). I won't get into which ones those are, but it did help me to write those and the other ones that contain personal experiences and I feel like I don't need to ever let those consume me again. I know there are others out there that write for therapy and I think that is awesome.
The existing fanbase thing is a big part though and I believe people like smooshy have already mentioned it (I think she said it quite well in fact). I'm writing something now that I'm going to put up in this section even though it isn't technically fanfic, but I'm not sure people would find it otherwise.
I also believe that as a serious writer, it's very good to push yourself to write things you're uncomfortable with. Comfort zone is something I'm always trying to push past. I think it makes for much more exciting and emotional stories – the kind you don't want to stop reading, or walk away from reading going, "whoa". So I would be the last person to tell someone else NOT to write about something, no matter what it is. Whether I would personally read it, well that is, as they say, another story.
There are some fanfic that I would never read … a shockingly large portion of it as a matter of fact. Part of that is just that I'm a picky mofo, but some of it really is that I think a lot of it poorly written. That's kind of a diskish statement there but when you've written professionally things that look like they were typed out on a qwerty in a 10th grade math class with un-thought-out plots and characters and liberal misuse of terms like there, they're, their and your, you're, you really don't have any interest in reading it. But at least people are trying so I'm not dogging them for that. I just wish they would review/spell check! I'm also not at all interested in reading high school stories or "Ferard" or a number of the other usual topics. I'm not that type of fan I guess. Again, just my personal preference and everyone is entitled to that, right?
Have I lost track of the point again? I might have … you see once I get going it's hard to shut me up sometimes. I think I'll just close this one up since 3 pages in Word is plenty for people to digest as a response.
I've said this many times to many people, you should write for YOU first and the reader second. This might go against what many who are writing professionally might say or what many teachers might tell you, but in the case of creative writing or writing for therapy, I think those are more personal. It's like painting a picture with words. Art is very relative and very personal. I believe writing to be an art. Artists take a lot of shit from people, but it's in their very souls to create and no one, not even the artist himself can extinguish that (not even in death … because art lives on). So although some may give you slack for what you create, you persevere. Comments and criticisms sometimes hurt like a kick in the balls but you live. And most importantly, comments can't take anything away from you – nothing that you've already done or achieved – and they should never prevent you from creating what you love.
And finally, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.
Author's responsethank you.
man, that was honest. and i ain't mad at ya. i'm really not.
on the subject of religion and spirituality, i'm agreeing with you there as well. the church i'm ordained with, the universal life church, which their religions range from atheism to christianity to taoism, states, "we are all children of the same universe." i could not agree more.
i'm just letting you know that if some person comes up to you and says you're going to he;; for not believing in god, that's a damned lie.
i don't know if it's going to happen or not (i'm not even guaranteed, you know?), but i DO know that a person who walks around and says that is stupid as hell.
i agree with everything you said. EVERYTHING.
and i also WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with what you said about fanfics being just for the fans.
i mean, who really wants to read about themselves as a pedophile or serial killer or slave driver? i wouldn't want to read about myself like that, either.
bluehh!!! shivers i'd pass that one up. like that old man said in the suddenlink commercial, "no THANK YOU."
on the subject of the whole 'crazy' fan thing, that's nothing new to me. before MCR, i was that 'crazy KISS fan'. at some point, i was 'that crazy writer kid'. i was also 'that crazy fat kid', 'that crazy drawing kid', 'that weird girl' (i looked like a girl back in the days of high school), etc. nowadays, i get either 'weird' or just plain 'crazy'.
what i find funniest about me being called crazy when i'm perfectly sane (for the most part.) i get called crazy for speaking my mind, not backing down, and displaying a lot of emotions people like to hide.
on writing 'gift', i understand you point. it's very valid and hold a lot of truth, especially considering nine times out of ten it ain't go happen that way. (and if it did, my head would pop off. i'd SERIOUSLY be scared shitless, and so would the way family.)
i wrote gift for the fans. not for gee and lindsey or their child. i wanted to pass it along to them because it felt worthy of such. first it popped into my head the moment my eyes snapped open, like god said, "hey! write this! now! it's good!" so i got up and started, then lost interest, then finished it a week and a half later.
i passed 'gift' along to mikey,hopign he'd pass it along to his brother. i wanted gerard to read 'gift' to perhaps give him an idea of what he may or may not experience. this is gerard's frist child, and evern though i don't know the man, i'm knowing he's feeling a jumble of emotions right now, but especially a lot of nervousness. the mother almost always overshadows the father during pregnancy. i wanted to put it out there for others to understand and see how it may or may not feel for a father to go through the birthing process, to see his wife in agony, how he feels about the child coming.
i don't know gerard, but i'm well aware of that fact that gee is experiencing some universal emotions. i'm pretty sure they guy has doubted himself a least once (even though lindsey and the rest of us know gerard is going to be a wonderful father) and has or is feeling some type of fear. we know this happens to the mother, but the father is often portrayed as an extra, a hovering background figure if you will.
this is why i wanted to pass 'gift' on to gerard and lindsey. because i know he's had doubts, he was in shock (in an interview he said he didn't know what to say), and i wanted mr. way to know that if he DOES feel those types of emotions, it's totally normal.
i wrote gift for the fans, but in actuality it really for gerard.
his reaction in that interview just caught my attention so sharply i had to say something.
as for my other stories (meaning the darker, more twisted ones i have in mind an the ones posted) are not intended for them--MCR--to read. i sent mikey the link to 'the skittles adventure', but that was because it was so ridiculously funny iHAD to share it with him. i don't know if he read it or not and i won't be disappointed if he didn't but the fact that he turns into a giant lime skittle is something i simply could NOT keep to myself. i read that story all the time and i can't believe i wrote it. it's seems to funny for me to have written. i feel like someone else wrote it.
rest assure, my upcoming story, "The Birthday Party" is NOT meant to be read by the guys. or their wives. i mean, if they see it, hey, but if they don't, it's probably best if they never do, 'cause it's REALLY fucked up. it's going to be rated
so that's where i am with that. also working on 'Mean Guyz'.
i can see why you thought i was 'creepy' at first. nothing new there. it takes a huge chunk out of me to share my emotions to the world, but i'm willing to make that sacrifice because there's FAR too many people in the world who thinks they're crazy to have those types of emotions.
what's crazy is trying to stay happy all the time. like if a kid comes home from school and says, "mom, dad, i felt sad at school today," i guarantee you befor the week is up that kids going to be walking out of the walgreens pharamacy hopped up on enough anti-depressants that would make a tweaker look calm.
what's crazy is trying to stay happy all the time, being taught to repress all other emotions but happiness, and when you get sad, you go take a bunch of pills to create artificail happiness, go to anger management when you're pissed about something, take cough syrup when you can't sleep, then wonder why you woke up one night in an alley totally spun out and trying to figure out how the fuck you got there in the first place.
what's crazy is when you've just lost a loved one and someone says, "don't cry."
what's crazy is when you've fallen out of the second level of a two-story house, breaking both your arms and your leg in three places, bones protruding everywhich way, and the paramedic says, "it's all right."
what's crazy is in jail, there's a woman who took her methadone and all of a sudden, she's vomiting yellow fluid, crying, seizing, and the other prisoners are calling for help, help, please come help this woman and the stupid fucking rookie deputy (who thinks she's a badass because she's wearing a uniform and just don't know if she went up to a group of black men and tried the same crap she'd be dropped in less than a second) comes over, looks at the woman, and says, "she's okay."
that, my friend, is craziness at it's finest.
that's how i know i'm sane. because i do the opposite of those things. but since you're taught from birth that these things are considered 'normal' and the opposite is 'crazy', then i'm completely fine with the fact i've been called crazy my entire life.
of course, the only time i experience insanity is when i have nothing to stimulate my mind. i have to have books. otherwise, i really DO start to lose my mind.
that's as close to crazy i've ever been, and i dont like it. it's scary when you're losing your mind and you can't stop it.
i agree with everything you said. EVERY DAMNED THING.
the only reason it hurt so much was because it was from a friend. the friend apologized, but it still hurts. there's some irrepairable damage that's been done, but life moves on.
we get about 70 years or so to make meaningful. i've aready used 22. moving on, moving on...
thanks for the comment. seriously. i enjoyed reading yours the most.
if standing up for what i believe in and having to take a few punches in the process, then i'm call me crazy. i'm sold.
i have a more detailed response i'd like to give you, but i'm going to cut it here for now because i want to go back to sleep.
thanks, c! you brought some things to my attention i didn't see before. i love listening to the wrods of a person who's lived linger than i have.
i'm going to read this review all the time.
you're maming me think.
get the fuck out of my head! ^_^
- I've been sitting here reading all the reviews as well as your original comment. So here's my opinion for what it's worth.
I agree with Smooshy in so many ways about borrowing the characters and let's face it unless you use Harry, Ron and Hermione not a lot of people will be reading these stories, not that they aren't good it's just easier to identify with. Fan fiction really reminds me of the "What If?" series from Marvel. For those who don't know it takes your favorite superheroes and puts them in a situation that is different because they chose a different track. I feel that is what fan fiction is doing taking your favorite band member as a character and putting them different situations. It's definitely a creative outlet and like canustakemyheart states using it to exorcize some demons you might have.
I love fan fiction because of the entire creativeness that goes on. Yes I do gravitate to MCR; yes I do gravitate to more Bob and Ray stories, or stories that involve the whole band because they seem more original. However that being said once I'm led into that author's writing, who the characters are doesn't matter to me as to what they're doing how they're reacting. There are several writers that I would read anything they write, be it MCR or the phone book because I know I'm in for a wild ride. I try to write myself, when I have the time. I write as therapy and to see some wild thoughts I might have becoming something I create good or bad.
But in the end we all have a difference of opinions, is the person that grew up next to the Ways a bigger fan than the one that lives two thousand miles away and has never seen a concert. I don’t think so. We all show our fan ship in different ways and not everyone agrees how it is shown. Remember how Mark David Chapman showed his, not to say any of us is like this. Though someone twittered Bob a while back after he responded and swore they would stalk him at a show and kill him if he didn’t respond to them, and then wrote I’m serious. I’m glad we have fan fiction to show our appreciation. Keep doing what you’re doing we all love reading it and don’t let anyone tell you it’s worthless because, I’m sure MCR hears it all the time. I remember reading in an interview Bob said something to the effect if you only make a difference in one person than it’s worth it.