Review for Eroninja

Eroninja

(#) Grayfoxx 2017-08-30

That is not (at all) why some, if not many, "decided" not to act, lol! If you exclude the people who take advantage of the monetary gain from war and just focus on the masses... well, have you ever been beaten up by a stronger person(s)? Have you ever been outmaneuvered by someone who is clearly more intelligent than you are? There are people in this world who can't always defend themselves. And even if the masses wanted to oppose tyranny, you know how difficult it is to lead a mass of soldiers/untrained civilians/militia against a superior military might? It's not surprising when weak people fall. It's not even surprising when strong people let it happen. Bad shit happening is never surprising, but when Naruto nearly starts bad shit, he better have a damn good reason!

"Hoping" Karui becomes Raikage??? With Naruto by her side isn't that kind of a certainty? "UPHILL BATTLE"?? Naruto laughs in the face of uphill battles. As you've said, just because it's a difficult thing to do, doesn't mean Naruto won't do it for his lovers. YEARS? They're immortal. Though I guess they'll need to live a few centuries before that can mentality really start to kick in.

Kumo's Weapon? You mean the Raikage's weapon. If Kumo citizens know anything, it's simply that she's a strong Kumo Shinobi. A shinobi who wants to be a shinobi for another origination even though it's her leader's call. Not to say shinobi don't think and feel and have personalities, but they are still a country's military force. If they don't want to be shinobi, go be something else than. Resign. I'm certain Naruto wouldn't care. But they don't want to resign do they? The only thing that's "truly" unfair about Yugito's situation is that she had NO choice. Her choice was wrongly taken from her.

They didn't handle the flower girl attack, Ay's war cry's, Danzo and Joseki the Prison threats right away did they? They didn't save Komachi right away even when they knew exactly where she was. She could've easily died. Wouldn't the bold thing to do in all these situations be to courageously risk the actions necessary without forethought of the out come? No! They took there time, and made a plan. They handled it with finesse to "truly" solve the problem with the least amount of blow back possible.

Yes the masses would allow Yugito to stay where she is, BUT they would also allow her to do something else as well. The masses are fickle and generally care very little with the dealings of government. As long as they're not suffering and can see prosperity than they tend to be pretty cool with whatever. The masses are meant to be LEAD. All you just have to do is make a convincing case and they will roll with it. You didn't do that though. You just went straight for defection like a peacock proudly displaying how amazing they are......(sigh). That's not a leader cause Naruto didn't even take a single night to consider the fallout. But of course to you, no matter the results, it means nothing in the face of Yugito's optimum happiness.

SIDE NOTE: I can understand Yugito being miserable after she learned how the Raikage really sees her, but she wouldn't be suffering. Is she waking up at night from night terrors? Is her hair turning white from stress? Is she getting seizures? If it's none of that, then how specifically is she suffering? If it's something along the lines of, "she hates her job." Than welcome to the club sister! Cause that's a ton of people, and definitely no reason to nearly start a war.

You give the masses too much credit. The Kumo citizens didn't decide "anything" about Yugito or her station. The Raikage does. He was the one who did it on behalf of his country. The regular people are oblivious to the details of military efforts. They mainly just know when they're at war or if they're in peace. That's it. The Raikage is the leader. The Kumo people are lead by the Raikage. And if Naruto changed the leader of Kumo to a shinobi who's cool with a decision like one of their strongest kunoichi taking an active role in peaceful efforts by the newly reformed Akatsuki, then the people will be as well.Yet Naruto didn't attack the problem head on, did he? Because the problem is Ay, not Yugito's way of ninja.

Author's response

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Yes, it is. In all the examples that you stated, they all required something first. A person taking action. In order to lose a fight, which I have. You first have to be willing to fight after all. I don’t agree that there are people that can’t defend themselves. There are certainly people that will not defend themselves mainly because they tell themselves the same things you are saying. But, doing nothing only assures you one thing. Failure by default. You can’t be sure a person is going to beat you before you are first willing to challenge them much as the recent Mayfield vs Mcgregor fight. You can assume, and even judge an action as futile. But, that is still losing through inaction. Sure, Mcgregor lost in the end, but he did far better than most people would have expected. The point is he tried. Hell, America was founded by people that had no right beating what at the time was the strongest country. Following your advice it would still be Colonies to the crown. But, they were willing to fight and that is the only way to know if you are going to win or lose. Again, doing nothing guarantees failure. Moreover, if people refuse to act, then they ultimately deserve only what those who do or are in charge will grant them.

Yes, it is hoping because it’s just bad storytelling to say, “Oh Naruto’s by her side so she’s definitely going to be Raikage.” Dairu is clearly Ay’s favorite so wouldn’t it stand to reason that is who would end up as Raikage after Ay.

No, I mean Kumo’s weapon. They know she is a jinchuriki and are fine letting her be one on their behalf. You may not be able to say they own all the Raikage’s faults. But, through their actions and inactions doesn’t he remain in power through them. As to the Shinobi, what makes you so sure they can just retire. I may have portrayed that as being the case in Konoha, but I never said Kumo was a lax when it came to its soldiers. I mean, for all you know it’s similar to North Korea there and see how well it would go for a soldier that just wanted to retire there.

They didn’t know about the flower girl attack until she sprung it. Who said they need to deal with the Prison attack right away? But as soon as they learned of it, they did begin acting right? It did take time to get the pieces in place. You’ve been arguing for doing nothing and let the problem sort itself out. As to Naruto, he may not have thought of the fallout that night. But, he made sure to account for it when he made his plans. The point is that he was willing to do what was right, not hiding behind what might happen if he failed and use that as an excuse for doing nothing.

Wrong, some people want to be lead. But, there are people that want to be free. Freedom requires two things, responsibility and self-reliance. It’s true there are people that want to be taken care from cradle to grave, and if that is the case, then they aren’t worthy of consideration as the only thing they deserve is what they are given. You can’t ask people that strive for more to support those that refuse to support themselves. You can’t ask people to deny what’s in their best interests for people that aren’t willing to act in theirs while hiding behind fears that they don’t think they are good enough. You say they would be fine with Yugito moving on, but wouldn’t they see losing one of their two super weapons as a threat to their security and prosperity. I mean you’re arguing against it pretty hard using the masses as a reason why Naruto shouldn’t have acted. Yet, now you’re turning around stating they would be fine with it.

Yes, because she is being denied freedom of choice. Furthermore, how many people who hate their job were forced into it as a child? I’m pretty sure slaves hated their jobs too. The difference between the people you use as an example and I is yours have a choice to change their lives. You’re arguing that Yugito doesn’t, and she should accept it because people with that freedom are too lazy to improve their situations.

The Raikage is one man, but he is enabled by many thousands. After all, when Hitler was rounding up the Jews what did the German people do. Nothing. A few had the bravery to act to hide them or smuggle them out of the country. But most did nothing as their Jewish neighbors were rounded up and led off to concentration camps. They might not have done it personally, but through their inaction they enabled the man that did.