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• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) DrT 2009-05-02

  Interesting! I wish I had thought of it. . . . I like it a lot better than canon

  Author's response

  Thanks. I kinda wish you had thought of it as well. You're a much better writer than I am. Feel free to borrow/steal/whatever it if you want, I'd love to see what you make of it.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) SpringRaine 2009-05-02

  I love it! I don't understand why most authors totally overlook the sacrifice James made that night in favor of what Lily was supposed to have done. Harry had two parents that loved him more then anything, not just one.

  Author's response

  Thanks. The only thing anybody ever sees is in canon, Dumbles makes a big deal out of it, just to justify Harry getting the crap beat out of him for 10 years. Of course, this is the same Dumbles that told everybody the rugrat offed the dark lord in the first place, possibly even coining the term "Boy-Who-Lived." If he didn't want to let him get a big head, he could have said Lily offed the SOB and died in the process and stuck him with a decent family.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) Bratling 2009-05-02

  This is a take on it that I haven't seen before. Well done! I wish I'd thought of it...

  Author's response

  Thanks. I came up with the idea while taking trash cans down to the curb in the rain, believe it or not. A literal flash of lightning and it was in my head before the thunder rolled in. Amazing are the things that come to a person while pleasing She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed.
  
  (The phrase SWMBO is the intellectual property of clell65619 [as far as I know] and is not intended as meaning the same person as HIS SWMBO. I happen to like living too much for that to be the case.)

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) Cateagle 2009-05-02

  -snicker- -chuckle- -guffaw- Oh, that is a beautiful one and I love it. It's fully canon compatible and a lot more logical than the explanation Dumbles gives in canon. I should also compliment you on a twist I've not seen before; those are rare and to be prized. I rather suspect Albus' confrontation with Harry's parents and Sirius was "exciting"; I'll firmly agree with Harry's thought about a "brave idiot".

  Author's response

  Thanks. I tried to keep it as canon compliant as I could, with Harry being forgiving, and all. Personally, I'd have ripped his soul to shreds and blasted the pieces out into Chaos for Clotho to regather at her leisure, but Harry is too much of a nice guy for that.
  
  The hell of it is, it makes sense. Peverell "set it aside" when he was ready for death to find him, meaning he gave it to his kid, or grandkid, or whoever, but in order to make said kids, he couldn't be covered by the cloak all he time, just the power of the cloak. James, as the owner of the cloak, did the same, (or else Dumbles stole the cloak, in effect murdering James. But that's a whole 'nother bunny.) granting the power to Harry.
  
  If it had been Lily's "Love" sacrifice, HP would never have been able to be turned into a horcrux, as it would have burnt away the offending soul fragment as it touched the kid. That didn't happen, so the protection of "love" had to be either a myth or a lie.
  
  Quirrellmort probably died because of some protections Nick Flamel put on the Stone prior to handing it off to Dumbles. "Flame'l." He burnt to death. Coincidence? I think not. 4th year, he didn't have the rock to torch him with, so he was able to be touched, but not killed, due to the ownership of the cloak.
  
  Personally, I think HP was unrealisic. Most people would have put a contract out on the MOB AND Tom, and been searching for private military operatives to give a list of names to, with them being at the top of the list. As soon as they were toasted, deal with the ministry as anarchy would be better than what they had, but it'd made for about a 250 page novel, instead of a 7 book series. A bit of gold and a bit of attitude adjustment for the WW and HP's life would have been easy.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) MadMax666 2009-05-03

  Good point...never thought of it that way before.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) Wolfric 2009-05-03

  I agree with the other reviewers, this is a clever insight into the HP world. I could see Harry coming to a boil over this and taking his frustrations out on Voldemort since Dumbledore is probably beyond Harry's normal reach. Of course if he used the resurection stone maybe he could toast Dumbledore's chestnuts, especially since, if I recall, the summoning process is said to be unpleasent for the summoned. Thanks for writing. W.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) psyco 2009-05-03

  Hold everything!
  
  The cloak is not a wand, so the ownership rule does not apply.
  
  Also note that the owner of the cloak needs to actually be wearing it to be protected from death.
  
  You overlooked your something in your analysis of the Lily's love sacrifice.
  
  The key to the whole thing is in the dialog:
  
  The sounds of someone stumbling from a room -- a door bursting open -- a cackle of high-pitched laughter -- (PA12)
  Lily’s voice: "Not Harry, not Harry, please not Harry!"
  Voldemort: "Stand aside you silly girl … stand aside now."
  Lily: "Not Harry, please no, take me, kill me instead ----- "
  Lily: "Not Harry! Please … have mercy … have mercy… "
  Harry hears a shrill voice laughing and the woman screaming (credit to HP lexicon)
  
  What occurred was a sacrificial ritual, which invoked something akin to a wizards oath or unbreakable vow. Lily requested that her life be taken instead of Harry's. Voldemort complied to that request. Her life for Harry's. When Voldemort tried to kill Harry, he broke that vow, thus the Killing Curse backfired on him.
  
  Though a love sacrifice, most human sacrifice is dark in nature, and willing or not, an act of murder, thus allowing the bit of soul to attach to Harry.
  
  Plus love is the most impure thing in the world. People do terrible things in the name of love. Murder, theft, torture. The list goes on.
  
  The protection Harry had that killed Quirrel were established from Harry's placement as the Dursleys. The fact he was accepted into the household was enough to strengthen Harry's protection. For sure love doesn't power this extra protection, but blood magic does.
  
  And just because the word Flame is in Flamel doesn't been flames would protect the stone. Your over reading into it. And Voldemort had Harry's blood, which is why he could be touched, he rendered the blood protection useless outside his place of residence at he relatives.

  Author's response

  I tend to see it differently. How many women have begged someone to not kill their kids? What makes you think this is not a normal occurrence? It hadn't stopped anything up until that point, so how would that be any different?
  
  I tend to think blood magic had nothing to do with Harry's placement at the hands of the Dursley's. Otherwise, the purebloods would all have these type of wards on their houses from before the rituals were considered "dark," as that doesn't seem to bother them in the slightest.
  
  I fail to see how, whether he was in a specific place would have any bearing on whether or not blood protections would work. If it allowed him to touch him in the graveyard, it would allow him to waltz right through the wards in Surrey, shouting "Crucio's for everybody!" Geography would have nothing to do with it.
  
  I believe we will have to agree to disagree on this.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) glrasshopper 2009-05-03

  Holy frak! That make absolutely perfect sense!
  
  Death couldn't take the owner of the cloak until he had already passed it on to someone else. Why hasn't anyone ever picked up on this before?
  
  Damn... What would have happened if Riddle had gotten his hands on the cloak?

  Author's response

  Nothing would have happened if Riddle got his hands on the cloak. Having it does not constitute ownership, as Dumbles said it would not work properly for him, even though he owned the Elder Wand.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) DemonRaiy 2009-05-03

  @psyco
  
  Wait a second...
  
  You put up a review in which you point out what (supposedly) happened in canon as opposed to what is in this story (or the author's comments to another review)? Need I point out that this is FANFICTION and that not everything will be in full accordance with canon, no matter how canon compliant a story may be?
  
  Cool story and a nice concept overall. I would like to see this expanded more on now that Harry is the "Master of Death".

  Author's response

  Thanks. All I know for sure is that I'd never give Albus Severus the cloak! A name like that is just begging for the kid to turn into a dark lord, and the cloak would make him impossible to kill.
  
  It's not going to be expanded, because, personally, if I were Harry, I'd get rid of Riddle, make peace with Gringott's, pull out every knut I had in the place, liquidate all WW assets, and the WW would never see me again. If I could do it in such a way as to destroy the economy, so much the better.
  
  Seven years of being their whipping boy was about six and a half too long, and now that he's an adult they can all go to hell, including his so-called friends.

• A Conversation at King's Cross

  (#) skippy64 2009-05-03

  "An excellent deduction" Watson

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