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• The Real Epilogue

  (#) jbstarnes1 2007-08-22

  "People who have never experienced war can't begin to understand how the endless months of stress, punctuated by moments of sheer unadulterated panic combined with the loss of close friends and loved ones changes people.
  I see all the characters dealing with PTSS in their own ways."
  
  Some people it does, some people it doesn't. In this story it is apparently affecting everyone, including the goblins, and it seems to have started before the war actually got under way, when several of the characters were still in school the previous year, if not even earlier than that.
  
  These characters aren't being written as if they've had fundamental personality changes because of the war. If they had at least that would have been a reason. But that's not how it's being written. It's being written as if up till the end of Deathly Hallows the characters had Always acted one way, after the end they had Always acted another, and it's impossible to reconcile those two competing thoughts.

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) Prince_Charon 2007-08-22

  Very interesting. Sadly, I could see Dumbledore doing that, and I could sort of see Ron and Ginny agreeing to it.
  
  Thank you for updating.
  
  More soon, please.

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) Treck 2007-08-22

  Well. I just read the first two and I like the can of worms that you have opened up.
  
  I don't like the end of chapter 2 though. A mere curse was to easy. Have you thought about getting his soul stuck in his portrait? you could then stick him in with Mrs. Black and let him spend eternity listening to her. Grin
  
  Merlin knows I'd never allow him or Snape to remain at Hogwarts as portraits.

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) Alatoic01 2007-08-22

  Great story!! Dumbeldore really make a mess of things, he really dont understand the power of love. I wonder if Luna curse have any power behind it.
  
  I supose Harry will need to investigate a posinlity to break the bond, after all I am sure there must be a way to counter it. then he and the rest can make decisions with out the presure of the spell.
  
  By the way I will vote for a Hr/H or if posible a h/Hr/L, after all they can complemente really well.
  
  Hope to read more soon.
  
  Cheers.
  
  MAC

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) FenrisWolf 2007-08-23

  Great story so far, but I really hope that you aren't just explaining away the scene described in the Epilogue of Doom and are planning on deviating from those appalling results, if only to rescue Harry's younger son from the truly apalling name 'Albus Severus'. I mean, really, they might as well pin a sign on the poor kid's back that says "Beat me up and steal my lunch money!"

  Author's response

  As I said in another review:
  In this version, Harry won't name his son Albus Severus. Or rather, isn't the one who does so.
  
  To answer some other reviews, I really think we see 4 different Harrys in canon. Harry books 1-4, CAPSLOCK Harry #5, wussy Harry of #6, and passive sacrificial Harry of DH. Since many fans howl in protest atthose who DARE suggest that is bad writing on Rowlings part, I think those last three Harrys were under Dumbles' influence. This is Harry freed of such things.
  
  Others' interpretations may differ. This is my explanation of why Harry's world in the epilogue nearly put me into a diabetic shock. Those who liked the epilogue will certainly not like this and disagree about the characterizations.
  
  "T"

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) brad 2007-08-23

  "I think you'll find you weren't totally surprised, since you know my other stories so well."
  
  Heh. Yes, I was thinking/hoping that Hermione would pop up as Harry's true partner, but I was wondering how you would do it. I guess the trick is in realising that no-one is called "Mrs. Potter" or "Mrs. Weasley" in the epilogue, as far as I can recall?
  
  I was so bloody angry at the Harry Potter that I read of in DH in the chapters where it was just him and Hermione, during Ron's betrayal. He never comforted Hermione, the best friend who stayed by him, as she wept in (SILLY GIRL!) misery night after night. I've come to realise that the characters in canon aren't as good/noble/'real' as I'd prefer them to be, or how I've read them in some superior fanfics.
  
  So I'm glad that your Harry comforted Hermione. I'm not reading anything sexual in that; just simple comfort and solace is good enough for me. I'm also very pleased that he acknowledged Hermione's help and thanked her for it; something else missing in canon, and that I first really became aware of after reading an early chapter of your "Dumbledore's Army" (one of my favourite parts, where he thanks Hermione).
  
  I think you might be overdoing the anti-Ron thing; 'the Great Prat'? Harry and Ron were still best mates as of the end of the book proper, and that's pretty negative language for his distaff's best friend's boyfriend! You haven't explained that really; unless Harry is now taking the time to go over what happened over the year and is getting angry again over Ron's abandoning them.
  
  The bonding was a big surprise, of course, and a bit far-out, but if it gives us a H/Hr[/???] slant on the epilogue ... :-)
  
  But why was Ginny allowed to remember the ceremony? I don't understand that 'flaw'. Why didn't Dumbledore wipe her memory too?
  
  Liked Molly's reasoning that Hermione can be Harry's, via indirection. Nice!
  
  "winning the wand directly" ... hmmmm. Harry won mastery of the Elder Wand merely by claiming Draco's other wand. It would be so easy for any wizard to waltz up to Harry, take him unawares and overpower him in some manner.
  
  We need Hermione to craft a 'single-master' spell, or a 'protect the master' spell with the Elder Wand, something that only it can do, that no other wand could defeat. But that would be too much a 'super Harry' tale, I guess.
  
  (I'm thinking along the lines of Green Lantern instructing his ring not to leave his finger, the first thing I'd do if I had a power ring!)
  
  Loved the 'proper goodbye' that Luna gave her mother. That was just NICE, so glad you put that in, Luna's mother being a significant part of her characterisation.
  
  Should have said in my review of chapter 1 - good to hear from you post-DH!!

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) brad 2007-08-23

  "I think you'll find you weren't totally surprised, since you know my other stories so well."
  
  Heh. Yes, I was thinking/hoping that Hermione would pop up as Harry's true partner, but I was wondering how you would do it. I guess the trick is in realising that no-one is called "Mrs. Potter" or "Mrs. Weasley" in the epilogue, as far as I can recall?
  
  I was so bloody angry at the Harry Potter that I read of in DH in the chapters where it was just him and Hermione, during Ron's betrayal. He never comforted Hermione, the best friend who stayed by him, as she wept in (SILLY GIRL!) misery night after night. I've come to realise that the characters in canon aren't as good/noble/'real' as I'd prefer them to be, or how I've read them in some superior fanfics.
  
  So I'm glad that your Harry comforted Hermione. I'm not reading anything sexual in that; just simple comfort and solace is good enough for me. I'm also very pleased that he acknowledged Hermione's help and thanked her for it; something else missing in canon, and that I first really became aware of after reading an early chapter of your "Dumbledore's Army" (one of my favourite parts, where he thanks Hermione).
  
  I think you might be overdoing the anti-Ron thing; 'the Great Prat'? Harry and Ron were still best mates as of the end of the book proper, and that's pretty negative language for his distaff's best friend's boyfriend! You haven't explained that really; unless Harry is now taking the time to go over what happened over the year and is getting angry again over Ron's abandoning them.
  
  The bonding was a big surprise, of course, and a bit far-out, but if it gives us a H/Hr[/???] slant on the epilogue ... :-)
  
  But why was Ginny allowed to remember the ceremony? I don't understand that 'flaw'. Why didn't Dumbledore wipe her memory too?
  
  Liked Molly's reasoning that Hermione can be Harry's, via indirection. Nice!
  
  "winning the wand directly" ... hmmmm. Harry won mastery of the Elder Wand merely by claiming Draco's other wand. It would be so easy for any wizard to waltz up to Harry, take him unawares and overpower him in some manner.
  
  We need Hermione to craft a 'single-master' spell, or a 'protect the master' spell with the Elder Wand, something that only it can do, that no other wand could defeat. But that would be too much a 'super Harry' tale, I guess.
  
  (I'm thinking along the lines of Green Lantern instructing his ring not to leave his finger, the first thing I'd do if I had a power ring!)
  
  Loved the 'proper goodbye' that Luna gave her mother. That was just NICE, so glad you put that in, Luna's mother being a significant part of her characterisation.
  
  Should have said in my review of chapter 1 - good to hear from you post-DH!!

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) BenRG 2007-08-23

  Damn... Dumbledore doesn't know when to quit, does he? I have a horrible feeling that he misrepresented this 'bonding' as merely a counter-measure against future attempts at possession or influence-by-vision rather than a betrothal of sorts.
  
  It is good to see that the scars of war have not just vanished with how Hermione destroyed Harry's letter. I have no doubt that our heroes (and yes, that includes Ron and Ginny - they were in no way mature enough to understand the downside of Dumbles' plan) will continue to live in a world of paranoid fear for many years to come.
  
  I agree that Harry would, if not kept the Hallows around, would have left them in a state where he and only he could obtain them quickly if the need arose. JKR wanted Harry just to embrace normality but it is my feeling that he is Slytherin enough to know that, so long as he is alive, the Hallows must be protected and kept from any ambitious would-be Dark Lord who might wish to supplant him as their master.
  
  BenRG's Rating: 8/10

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) jbstarnes1 2007-08-23

  "I really think we see 4 different Harrys in canon...Since many fans howl in protest atthose who DARE suggest that is bad writing on Rowlings part, I think those last three Harrys were under Dumbles' influence. This is Harry freed of such things."
  
  That seems like some pretty important character information that should be in the story somewhere, otherwise how is any reader ever going to understand why Harry is behaving the way he is?

• The Real Epilogue

  (#) Meteoricshipyards 2007-08-23

  The Bonding is a great way to make sense of Harry's actions. (Love potion is another :-)
  
  I like your analysis of the 4 Harrys (except I disagree that Angry!Harry is that disconnected from Harry books 1-4; yes he's angry but he's got Voldemort pounding on his head from the inside, Umbitch carving his hand, Snape raping his mind, and Dumbles ignoring him. I'd be angry, too. The real disconnect came after OotP and Harry ignoring Sirius' death and all his extended friends,
  especially Luna.)
  
  As for Ron -- my feeling is that in DH JKR was finally giving Ron a bit of the maturity he would need to be a good spouse.
  
  Anyway, good chapter. Thanks for creating this.
  
  Tom A.
  

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