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Chapter 43: Blast from the Past Arc: Mito: Part I
Naruto is given a scroll containing the secrets of making women fall for him, a scroll he uses at first on the women around him but soon on the shinobi world as a whole, giving birth to the Ero-ninja.
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(#) Javier808 2013-08-18
Finally found you. Took awhile and another couple of days to catch up, but I can say that this story is one of the best I stumbled upon. So much so that I caught my girl reading it after a few chide remarks about my reading habits. With that said, from the both of us and whoever else she put onto it, keep up the incredible work cause it's going to take some time to show her all of the characters involved in it.Author's response
Glad you found the story again. I hope it continues to live up to your expectations.Eroninja
(#) Thanathos 2013-08-20
Thanks for the response. You're right, I forgot Madara, though we don't know how exactly Kabuto fixed Madara up, or how long that took. I mean Madara was meant to be Kabuto's ace, what else was the guy supposed to do when he summons an old man? He HAS to fix him up, or else Madara is essentially useless. I mean Madara knew of the Edo Tensei, there may have been a reason he never considered it as an option for resurrection, not even as an intermediate solution to be able to work directly on his plan until the Rinnegan-user has gained the necessary skill to bring him back to actual life.
Another possibility is that the appearance of the summon is dependant on the age that person was when the sample was separated from him or her. So if Kabuto found Madara's DNA, such as blood or hair, that was shed when Madara was in his twenties, then the Edo Tensei will build up the body according to the information supplied by the DNA. So even though Madara died an old man, that DNA did not age beyond the twenties, and the body built from it thus hasn't either. It would make sense, as Madara's survival beyond his last fight against Hashirama was a closely guarded secret, how would Kabuto have known where to find Madara's body, or even where and what he had to look for? It's more likely he just found older DNA from when Madara was younger.
I mean if it really were so simple to pick the age of your summon, why summon them as old men and children, rather than simply call them all into their prime when their bodies are at their physical best? Either the process takes so much time or so many resources that it wouldn't be worth the cost in the long term, or the appearance is decided by factors outside the user's control. Either way, it's bound to be significantly more complex than it was depicted in this chapter, and would have required preparation, as Mito's body when Kabuto used it was that of an old woman.
So basically Kiyomi tells him that if his wifes wish to prove him their love in the greatest way, bear him a child, she'll essentially let them die? Her relationship with Naruto is already strained because of the brainwashed kunoichi, and her plan is to tell Naruto 'If they birth you a child, I will let age kill them, take them away from you forever.' Is she TRYING to end her relationship with Naruto?
Actually Hidan was completely immortal, and he didn't starve in the sense that he ran out of nutrition. After all, he talked without lungs to push air past his vocal chords, why would he need a stomach to digest? If he perished, it would be because of his immortality's one flaw; it's powered by sacrifice, meaning that if he fails to murder for a certain amount of time, which he can't while he's trapped under the earth as a head, it will eventually fade, and once that happens Hidan's injuries will kill him. Hidan's cause of death would be trauma, not starvation. He 'starves' in the way that his immortality run out of fuel, but not because of a lack of food or water.
As for Anko, it may not have been the most pressing point in the story so far, but her reaction suggests that no heart-to-heart has occured to this day. After all, she is breaking away feeling rejected, and she still has the nerve to refer to that kidnapping&torture-attempt as BDSM. Either she really still has no idea how you do that with a willing partner, who you CAN'T treat like the prisoners you break for a living, or a conversation regarding the hows and whys of both the play and that disastrous session haven't happened. I mean Naruto is the type of person who will at least attempt something to make his girls happy even if he himself is not having the time of his life doing it, I just can't see him flat-out reject EVERYTHING about BDSM-play with Anko under proper circumstances. Part of his Sage-training consisted of being hit on the head with an old toad's cane, Naruto knows how to take pain for a certain cause.
I assumed that the heart-to-heart conversation between Anko and Naruto didn't happen, because if you're saying that it did and Anko still acts the way she does in the last chapter, then either Naruto condemned BDSM and by extension Anko as sick and depraved after it was properly explained to him, which would make Naruto a rude and insensitive bstard, or Anko still didn't learn anything about how BDSM really works and insists on trying to treat Naruto as a literal, no-rights slave who just has to suck it up if his owner lets out his bad mood on him, which would make Anko a control-thirsty selfish btch who just wants to rule her partner and doesn't really care about Naruto. With the alternatives being either Naruto or Anko turning out to be an *sshole, or a real discussion between the two to clear things up not having happened yet, I chose to assume that you didn't design the pair's characters as that petty and thus the talk hasn't happened yet. Which in term means Naruto is hesitant to bring it up with Anko, which while not exactly heroic is still somewhat understandable. He was an attention-starved orphan who quickly gained a lot of loved ones, he simply doesn't know how to handle the rift that suddenly opened between them.Author's response
I don't think that is the case about Madara since he wouldn't have the Rinnegan or access to woodstyle if the DNA sample was what caused a person to appear younger or not. I believe it is something the castor of Edo Tensei can decide. It's just in somecases there really doesn't appear to be a point to it. For Madara Kabuto wanted to bring him back better than ever.
As to Kiyomi, my first question would be what makes you think Naruto is so hellbent to have children in the first place. I mean being a father is hard work and when measured against the number of relationships he already has to balance kids might not be something he's all that interested in. Plus, choices need to have consequences and I believe that if a person wishes to enjoy the possibility of living forever then it isn't too much to ask that they be willing to sacrifice something in return. The idea that on top of living forever they are going to keep popping out children to me seems rather selfish. Plus it is reckless breeding that has led to countries like China instituting laws that only allow one child per a couple.
Again we're going to have to disagree here. The Second Naruto Fanbook states that Hidan was alive after having his body destroyed but was dying from a lack of nutrition. While I agree with your point about his lungs and his ability to still talk keep in mind that sometimes things are done simply for show not so much for scientific accuracy. It looked cooler for Hidan to still be threatening Shikamaru even though he had been reduced to such a state. But whatever you choose to believe the point is that if Shikamaru had blown his head up too, he'd be dead and thus there is no such thing as true immortality.
Currently its something that both are rather embarrassed about and have been avoiding. That avoidance is what is causing the rift between them to widen.Eroninja
(#) Seed00 2013-08-21
Naruto knows that this point, he's the one who has to make an effort to restore the relationships within his pack. HE can say there and feel bad about Anko, and complain about Kiyomi's actions but nothing will be resolved if he doesn't take a step himself. Pouting and being angry will not solve the underlying problem. As for Kuukaku, she found pleasure elsewher. I essentially see Naruto's mindset as the following, the bijuu are free for the first time in millennia. IF they find happiness or purpose elsewhere but not with NAruto, I would imagine he'd be happy for them. If they choose him anyway later, that's also good. How the remaining bijuu come to love Naruto is what will be interesting to read about. I'm more worried about the meeting between Mito and Kushina considering Naruto will probably see the similarities in Kiyomi. The face of his clan kin and the body of his mother. Like I said, fun reading ahead.Eroninja
(#) Thanathos 2013-08-21
I know you're probably tired of this debate, so this will (hopefully) be my last post until the next chapter is up.
If it were only about the Mokuton, Kabuto would have had access to that both with the Zetsu Obito gave him and the fact that Orochimaru must have had ample stores of Hashirama's DNA, considering his project with baby's left him enough that he felt he could sacrifice more to call back Hashirama against Hiruzen, so that arguement is inconclusive. However mentioning the Rinnegan is an interesting issue. Both the Sharingan and the Mangekyo are awakened by a mental strain rather than a physical one, so why can't the Rinnegan be one too? If that is the case, then even if the DNA was taken before the man reached that level, his soul and the knowledge that he had reached the level could be enough to allow the 'new' body to unlock the bloodlines. You're saying that the Rinnegan indicates Kabuto's control, but then what about Nagato? The man was a withered husk that had to be CARRIED for transportation, if Kabuto really had control over his summon's age, why would he call Nagato in such a useless state that even after the Uzumaki drained chakra to youthen himself he still couldn't walk, rather than just summon a younger Nagato who could still use his legs? Nagato had the Rinnegan, so having him mobile would have been a tremendous advantage for Kabuto.
Actually that raises an interesting question in itself. The Edo Tensei calls back the dead using their DNA as they were when they died, exept for Madara, with all the blemishes. The Sandaime Raikage had his scar, Nagato had the implanted eyes he died with. But Madara died with borrowed eyes, when he was last seen he had one eye and one empty socket, neither was Rinnegan or even Mangekyo-level. It's one thing to say the Edo Tensei can, or at least can be modified to, call back the summon at another age, but with Madara we're not just talking going back age, we're talking about going back TRANSPLANTS. Madara's Rinnegan weren't his eyes either, they were his brother's, and those were removed to be implanted into Nagato years, possibly decades, before Madara's death. In other words, at the time of Madara's death the man didn't have a single trace of Izuna's DNA left in his body, yet the Edo Tensei just builds back foreign parts without a blueprint? If it were the eyes he died with that's one thing, if it were his original eyes that would be another, but you're saying with just old Madara's DNA the jutsu built back organs that had a completely different DNA? I personally find it more likely that the DNA Kabuto used was of Madara when he still had his brother's eyes, perhaps it was even DNA from the last battle between Hashirama and Madara. The battle did end with Madara being stabbed after all.
Regarding the immortality-debate, sure Naruto may not want children right now, disregarding all other factors it would be a bad time for that, but are you saying with Naruto potentially living hundreds, if not thousands of years you think he'll never once want children?
And sure, the idea of living forever and having offspring is somewhat selfish, but there are far more selfish concepts. For example, the concept of one man having sexual relationshios with over thirty girls at the same time and hunting for more. Where is Naruto's karmic retribution? It's not like he found his true love, helps others find their true loves and then works together with these couples to change the world, he is honey-trapping dozens of women. That it's for a greater good and the fact the girls are happy does not change the fundamental fact that the story's whole premise is built upon a fantasy of male selfishness. So you're saying it's okay for Naruto to screw his way around the world, but if the women he does it with want more out of it than a shag, they have to be punished?
You know, your idea of 'choices need to have consequences' seems very Greek Mythology. Poseidon rapes Medusa in Athena's temple, so in retribution Medusa is turned into a monster. Let the gods, male gods in particular, do as they please, and when they're done their partner can try to pick up the pieces and pay the bill.
If your morality is Greek God, how about being consequent and have the solution to the immortality-issue be from there too? If an immortal sires a child, the immortal doesn't turn mortal, the children just don't get immortality. That would also be a reasonable price for the immortal women. You want a child? Okay, but you will have to watch it grow old and die eventually. No immortal children, no overpopulation.
You might be right with Hidan, I confess I haven't read the second fanbook, so I can't argue for or against what's written there.
So the talk hasn't happened. That was all I wanted to know.Author's response
Madara himself said he unlocked the eyes just before he died after injecting himself with the First Hokage cells. Also Kabuto told Madara he modified him so that he came back better than when he was in his prime. I believe this means not only can the castor modify the body, but even make changes as they wish. Some might take longer than other or a certain amount of prep work might be required. There just wasn't a whole lot of reason to modify any of the other bodies. I can't imagine a young Chiyo would be a whole lot more powerful then the old one was, especially when you consider that those revived by Edo Tensei never run out of chakra or can be killed. But Madara was over a hundred years old when he died and was only kept alive artificial via the Gedo Mazo. Bringing him back at the age would likely mean he has no mobility and could easily be sealed. It made it necessary to make him younger just so he could defend himself.
I just don't understand why there is this drive that when a person can live forever he must also want to have children too. Especially when he has as you pointed out over thirty lovers he needs to please and keep happy. Also, to be honest your point about the child being mortal while keeping the mother immortal would be extremely selfish to me and not something any true mother would consider. A true father either. With that being the case I just see having a child with the gift they have been given in this story as a case of a person wanting it all and being unwilling to sacrifice anything.
About your point to true love, I don't see how the number of lovers a person has correlates to their being selfish especially when all the relationships are consensual. I mean your point about true love doesn't hold much sway, at least in my own opinion, especially since some of the characters would have to have found True Love twice. Take Tsunade for example one can say she found true love with Dan originally. Does that make her feelings for Naruto any less or more because she lost Dan? If I wrote a female centric Harem fic centered around Tsunade would that mean she loved one of them more or less then I've displayed her feelings for Naruto in this story? I believe that the answer to this would be no to both questions. Therefore how is it selfish for Naruto to have multiple lovers? The answer to me is because Society dictates that one significant other is the correct number of people we can have such "true feelings" for. I tend not to believe that love is something that can be quantified that way. Provided a person can live with their choices and they don't harm anyone else or all members participating do so willingly its really none of my business as to what they consider love or not. Therefore while you are correct in stating that this story is based on a male fantasy, I believe you are wrong in stating it is selfish by its very nature. Naruto is under no obligation to unite people with their "true loves," which if you want to go by the Naruto movies and animes alonem, he would likely be every filler female characters' true love that has appeared thus far.Eroninja
(#) RjtheDestr0yer 2013-08-22
Loved the chapter but wasn't as amazed as the last chapter probably because of the more abrupt cliffhanger.
So Kiyomi is the one who controls the immortality aspect? Interesting. Feel like there's a lot of power that Kiyomi has but Naruto is able to assert his authority so I'm not worried about that conflict of power being anything major. Unless you have something up your sleeve....
I guess since Shion is going to live forever she won't need another daughter.
Anyway looking forward to Mito's joining. Can't wait for Sara's chapter as well.Eroninja
(#) Thanathos 2013-08-22
Yes, Madara gained the Rinnegan, but again when he died he didn't have them, Nagato did, and the eyes holding the Rinnegan have Izuna's DNA, not Madara's, so since he didn't have them when he died they were not a part of his body. Not to mention that Obito would have easily been able to store Madara's body somewhere only he could reach it, which would be important since part of the plan involved resurrecting Madara, which even the Rinnegan can't do without the body. So it's in fact very likely that the DNA Kabuto used was older, and that Madara still had his brother's eyes, Rinnegan or no, when the DNA was shed. After all, even if the body of the younger Madara was rebuilt without Hashirama's DNA, Kabuto probably injected it into him the moment he was summoned as part of the improvements, so there's no contradiction with him having the Rinnegan, since Madara still had all the knowledge he had about its use.
And this modification again doesn't contradict what I said. Madara was summoned, most likely in less than ideal condition, and Kabuto fixed him up. All I originally noted is that the fixing-process can't have been as short and simple as you implied here. You're right, a younger Chiyo may not be amazingly more competent, a but a younger Nagato WHO CAN WALK would definitely be. Nagato destroyed much of Konoha in a single blow, and with the power of all paths in his body would have been devasting, yet his potential was vastly crippled because the man HAD TO BE CARRIED in order to get anywhere. If modifying a corpse to come back at a younger age was as easy as thinking it while doing the summoning why didn't Kabuto do it to let Nagato move on his own rather than also bind Itachi, another formidable warrior, to lug him through the countryside?
I'm not saying the appearance of the summons CAN'T be modified, just that it would require more time and effort than you showed here.
Since you are not an immortal, you are hardly in a position to make such a statement. But the opposite is also true. Forever is a VERY long time, why WOULDN'T they want children at some point? Sure, the fifty-plus relationships Naruto will liekly end up with do take time and attention, but with forever to sort it out, eventually there will be a point where everything is known so well that there will be free time. Not to mention that unless you plan to pen all the girls into a single building, then the more girls there are, the less time Naruto will be able to spend with any one of them. There will be girls that won't have much of Naruto for weeks, even months at a time, so is there really a reason not to have a child to spend the time with? For humans, having a child is more than bringing forth the next generation. There's love, care, responisibility for the child, pride in watching it grow up and it's achievements. It is much more, and having a child with their true love is something many, male and female, wish for.
I noticed you didn't answer the question about the immortality's sexism. If say Tsunade gives birth to twins, a boy and a girl, and she loses her immortality, do both children get it? Because the daughter could then in turn lose her immortality when she gives birth, but the boy could literally sire hundreds of chilren and still be young, because unlike women a man doesn't have to want or even be aware of a pregnancy to become a father, so the son could not even know he's a dad. Or is the immortality biased the other way, only girls get immortality while the boys age normally even if they remain chaste their whole lives?
Also, if all this is decided solely by Kiyomi, how does she plan to keep track of all the descendants to know when she has to transfer immortalities? With twins and an eternity of time, the potential offspring having immortality will keep on increasing, becoming more and more difficult to overlook. Eventually she wouldn't have any time left for Naruto because she has to keep track of everyone.
You say it's selfish for immortals to sire mortal children and stay immortal? Why? Naruto's girls didn't ask for immortality, Kiyomi gave it to them. Not even gods decide as what they are born. More importantly, having the immortality go to the children in effect defeats the purpose of giving it to them. Kiyomi didn't give Naruto's girls immortality to create a race of immortals, she gave them immortality so that they could spend their life with the immortal Naruto as his lovers forever, the purpose of their immortality is that Naruto can spend eternity with them all. Unless you're planning on having the children born take their mother's place as Naruto's lovers, which would be pretty disturbing, there would be no point from Kiyomi's point to let a bunch of random strangers become immortal, she's not altruistic enough for that. Kiyomi wanted Naruto to not lose lovers, not create a lineage of immortals to play god for the unwashed masses.
Anyways, the issue isn't urgent, children are likely not going to come up in this story, or at least not until the very far future, so kinks of immortality and motherhood are not really important right now.
Yes, in a sense the number of loved ones isn't necessarily a factor of love, but one can argue against what Naruto does here, and to what extent it is all consensual. The problem isn't so much that Naruto has multiple lovers as the way he gained them. After all, he isn't going around the country looking for women that love him and then tie the knot, he's going out to girls who don't love or even know him and bind them to him. He's kind and caring yes, and a real loving relationship can develop from it, but that doesn't change the fact that many of the women didn't love Naruto when he recruited them, nor did he love them. Let's take Mabui for example. She didn't even know Naruto existed, and all Naruto knew when he met her is how she looked, that she was from Kumo, that she was in an important position, and that her diligent work would make it very difficult for him to do anything in Kumo as long as she wasn't working with him. That is incredibly shallow, and yet for the sake of Naruto's goal, however noble it may be, he basically tore Mabui out of her life and added her to his ranks, despite not knowing her at all. What she liked, disliked, favorite foods, favorite places, even personal background, Naruto knew none of the things that one expects the partner of the relationship to know. Mabui wasn't expecting a relationship with Naruto when he bound her either, she was horny, again Naruto's doing, and simply wanted a release for that. What happened to her had as much to do with love as a whale-catcher harpooning a whale. If there is any love in the situation it's toward the goal, not the being that is now a means to reach it.
Fact is that however the feelings may develop later on, Naruto seduces and tricks women into the bond with him, there is no love required for that to work. And in return, Naruto can't really say honestly that he loves all his girls. He cares for them, but he doesn't really know all that much about any of them, so he can't really love them in the sense that he knows and accepts all they are. That is in fact the root of the Anko-problem, despite claiming he loved her Naruto didn't understand Anko, and thus panicked in the situation he should have but didn't see coming. He just doesn't have the time he'd need to spend with each of his girls to develop deeper bonds with them, and instead of taking the time to develop real understanding love with the girls he has, he instead goes out to hunt for more.
There may be love that grows from Naruto's bonds with his women, but the founding reason for what Naruto does is not love towards the women he ensnares, it is his selfishness to do what he feels he must to reach HIS goal, he is sacrificing the true and unbiased free will of his women for his goals. Yes he leaves them with a measure of freedom, but that is after the bond has been made, very few girls were given the information and then freely decided they wanted to be bound, most had the option made available only after the act was done. Even the filler-girls you mentioned, their emotions are more akin to admiration, they have crushes on Naruto, but they simply don't know him enough to truly say that they love Naruto, because they only saw him for a short amount of time and in very specific situations. One can argue how much of Naruto's relationships is built on lust rather than love.
Point is, there is a degree of selfishness in Naruto's actions. He himself acknowledges this during the recruitment of Pakura, when he doesn't recruit someone who is very receptive, almost dependant, on his touch for the sole reason that she's not useful to his plans. He feels terrible about it, but he none the less acknowledges that he is selfish in that aspect as he meddles with the lives of women, and in a sense the possible love-partners they might have had. After all, the kunoichi he didn't take will now likely spend the rest of her life thinking back to that 'ghost', comparing all her future lovers with him and feeling frustrated when they fall short. Naruto is not a completely selfless person. He isn't evil or malevolent, but like all humans he is selfish to a certain extent, and that selfishness is one factor that influences his decisions.Author's response
In the future if you wish to respond please do so at my deviant art account or on Fanfiction.net. I do not wish to keep artificially bumping up my reviews on this chapter.
To dispute your point the problem with your theory is where would Kabuto gain access to Madara's DNA at a point in his life when he was in his prime. There isn't exactly a lot of places that it could be found in sufficeint quantites to use EDO Tensei. Even if you visited an ancient battlefield chances are after a hundred years it wouldn't be obvious or useable.
The reason its selfish is because procreation is something that people do to carry on the species and live on after death. True we ascribe feelings to our children and take pride in all that they achieve, but the biology of it is the same for people and animals. If death isn't a factor from old age then to me its selfish to procreate for the sake of procreation. For instance if you know you barely have enough to survive on your own, but then decide to have a child wouldn't you agree that is wrong since you are in fact bringing said child into a life of poverty. The responsible thing to do is to forgo having a child until you know you can provide for it properly. This may not hold true in Naruto's case, but your point about him not being able to be with certain lovers for peroids of time doesn't exactly lend itself to his having children. If he couldn't spend time with his lovers, then how is he going to spend time with his children. That would make him a crappy father in my book and I can't exactly see him wishing to impregnate a woman if he couldn't be a proper father. Nor do I see many of the women wanting to raise a kid with him being an absentee father.
I would say its selfish because I don't think a parent would wish to have a child knowing they are going to have to watch it grow old and die. To me having a child under those kind of circumstances is akin to just having a child to say you had it. Which is why I feel a immortal wouldn't feel the need to have a child especially with knowing that it is someday going to die.
I know Naruto is walking a thin line as he choses his lovers, but the relationships develop over time and this is true in all relationships. Granted in some cases they start out as lust based but in time that is where the feelings develop. No different then a one night stand turning into something more later on down the road. Naruto may have tilted the cards in his favor, but so do most people when they are on prowl for a sexual relationship which is why we invest money in fine clothes, haircuts, and perfumes as well as head out to bars and clubs. It isn't selfish to go out and start a relationship based solely on sex, and the only thing Naruto has held back is his goal and the bond that results. But while he may be able to control their actions he has never stripped them of their will. If they think he is behaving wrongly they are free to tell him and have their own thoughts and opinions. True Love outside of parental love develops over time, its not something that just happens. This is the case for all relationships. Your point about it being selfish the way he does it isn't entirely accurate from my point of view as it is no different the picking a girl out of a club based solely on her looks. The point is there is something about her that a person finds attractive.
I'm not going disagree with your point about the Suna kunoichi simply because you did hit on something I plan to show when she next appears in the story, which was while he was trying to advance his goals he did so in a short sighted manner and that actions do have consequences. Which is my point about children as well. These are things that should be thought out and to be honest I don't believe a massive harem lends itself to a situation where kids should be introduced or need to be when one is going to live forever.Eroninja
(#) Nomugendai 2013-08-22
Apologies if you already answered this but are you planning on having Naruto promoted before he becomes Hokage. It's just something that bugs me in the series that Naruto routinely fights S-Class enemies, including Pain who curb-stomped the entire village, and is still a genin.Author's response
Without giving too much away let me just say that if Naruto is going to be raised up in rank it will be via the only shown method in the Anime and Manga. But at the moment it might not be something he wants as there are certain advantages to being a genin that disappear if he is promoted. I think a scene I have planned for the Guren chapter and Samui's will show this a little better.Eroninja
(#) blackbankai 2013-08-28
I wonder what will Tsunade say when she is reunited with her grandmother Mito Uzumaki.Eroninja
(#) Korog11 2016-06-15
I think that the women being unable to have kids without aging, is as some might have said, is a cop out that is beneath you. Personally I would have made it so that each woman can give birth X amount of times and their children would have similar longevity to Hagamoro's, as in a few 1,000 years as well as being able to fall in battle, relinquish their long lifespans, while maybe opening up the other planets as possibilities for frontiers in the case of overpopulation, then there's the option of the other connected dimensions, like what Kaguya and Hagamoro can access. Also the cost of creating new life in my mind would be a dramatic drop in chakra levels until the child is born, maybe even weaned, and then the chakra levels steadily return to the prior point. Also I think it's a decent idea to have the lifespan of their descendants decrease with every generation until it is around 115 years of clean living. Also I have to ask "Why so many Bleach characters?" Honestly between the large number of Bleach chicks and the whole have to give up being virtually immortal to have a child, and for some reason it can't be Naruto as the father, due to overpopulation as an excuse is kinda killing how much I love the story. Now I am aware that the story is still going on, so it would mean so much to me if you considered my review and alternative options to the having a child bomb you dropped in this chapter. If you don't like my ideas or a just WAY too far along with the story to make such a change in any of the zero-Ninja stories feel free to say so. Also their is SO MUCH more to having a child then ensuring that you continue to live on, it is a journey that can make the world seem like a better place, and I believe that the inability to have a child with out giving up a change that was made to me, for example,would be more than a bit of a deal breaker for me. I also think that the sterility thing screams a bit too Twilight and Dark Hunter series. After all I often read of Naruto wanting to have a family as well as becoming Hokage as his dreams. Although I suppose it could be me being my usual hopeless romantic, that wants to read about Naruto and his loves raising children in a time that peace has begun to reign.
Also I think that the Final Fantasy/Taki-Trio should have standing orders to obey Naruto on the same level as Kimioko.Author's response
To be honest, to my way of thinking, your arguments about kids are born entirely of your desire for them to appear in the story. Not of anything actually found in the story itself. I can't be held to those expectations, or what other authors do to meet them.
Now as to why kids will not be appearing in this story. Well first off, it really didn't do the canon Naruto any good now did it. I mean the Naruto that you described doesn't even exist in Kishimoto's version considering how his son resents him. If anything, I'm almost grateful canon became such garbage since it just further validates my reasons. I mean if Naruto in canon can't manage to be Hokage and a good father. Then how do you expect my Naruto to balance what he needs to do, with the numerous relationships that he has. A child requires far more attention then an adult. Mix in his possibly having dozen or more at a time then what are the odds some of them feel ignored without the understanding that an adult would have.
Furthermore, I don't believe you are really looking at things from Kiyomi's point of view. In Eroninja, she is many hundred of thousand years old. She watched humans go from small scattered tribes to covering the entire continent. She is taking a long view because the end results would be unsustainable.
All the solutions you provided truthfully to me are just about satisfying your desire to see them appear. I mean why give any of them irregular lifespans, is it because as more time goes on we'd care about the next generations less and less so they can just die. Kind of sounds like out of sight out of mind to me. I know that isn't how you intend it, but that is how it looks to me. It is kind of like how most governments run huge deficits as they borrow money to pay for promises they made today. But are being paid for by the next generation and the one after that, until one of them is the one left with a debt that cannot be paid because there is no one left to borrow from.
Isn't the responsible thing to do if you know an action has bad consequences down the road is to not engage in them. That is why they have a choice potential live forever and remove yourself from the natural order of reproducing or have a kid and return to it.
Finally, there is also my version of Naruto to consider who doesn't want kids. I mean if he has to choose between children and a life of blissful self indulgence with a harem of women without them. I imagine he is quite eager to be signed up for the latter.
PS. Heck, the kids helped ruin the Naruto manga and that to me tends to be the trend. For every good child that appears in media like the Six Sense, there are dozens like the live action Avatar: TLAB movie or the brats that appeared in the Lost Word.
PSS, the reason so many Bleach and other characters appear is because there are only a handful of kunoichi in Naruto, and considering the number needed for a place like Konoha that would be inclined to role with what he wants. Wouldn't just as many be needed in other places. As such I either needed to create OC's, or pull from other media. I choose the latter.
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